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The Honolulu Advertiser
Posted on: Monday, July 10, 2006

Leadership corner

Full interview with Celine Pi'ilani Nelsen

Interviewed by Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writer

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CELINE PI'ILANI NELSEN

Age: 40

Title: President and Founder

Organization: Pacific Leadership Partners

Born: Lihu'e Kaua'i

High School: Kaua'i High School, class of 1983

College: Attended Brigham Young University-Hawai'i, Kaua'i Community College and Hawaii Pacific University. Graduated in 1986 with a degree in Travel Industry Management from KCC. Current student in international business at HPU.

Breakthrough job: My breakthrough job was headlining at the Polynesian Review at the age of 2 in 1967 at the Po'ipu Beach Hotel on Kaua'i. The Hanapepe ward of the LDS Mormon church was trying to raise funds to build its own chapel. They landed this contract to do a Polynesian review and they needed some sort of lure. My grandmother had the wild idea to put her 2-year-old granddaughter on stage. So that's exactly what they did. I learned how to get rid of my inhibitions at a very young age.

Little-known fact: I can actually be very quiet and reflective. I'm always on, and I think it's because I love life in general. I'm sort of an extremist. I live everyday as if it were my last because then I'd have no regrets at the end of the day. But sometimes I do power down so I can reboot myself — because you can't go like this forever.

Mentor: My grandfather, Louis Niau. He was just brilliant. There really wasn't very much he couldn't do. I realized that he was my mentor in my adulthood when he passed away. I had a really tough time with it. He had actually set the first foundational tools for me. I come from a family of pa'akai, Hawaiian salt makers, from the island of Kaua'i and one of the things that really jumped out at me was values, your personal value system, and he had one that was unwavering. When I look back at my corporate career and my resume, all of it doesn't matter except for the personal value system that he taught me.

Major challenge: I see challenges as mere roadblocks and detours on your road of life. Ultimately, we've got the power to change the route, the car, the view, the destination. I honestly believe that if you have faith in yourself and faith in a higher power, they will act as the ultimate shield to whatever comes at you.

Hobbies: My newest hobby is going on historic treasure hunts. I've become somewhat of a history buff, so I love studying old pictures, rummaging through my grandmother's closet and my grandfather's toolshed and finding all these little treasures. I like to read old books and most of all, I find that I love sitting with kupuna, listening to them and absorbing it all. I wish that I could write a book for every kupuna that I sit down with. I also love to sing, I write music and I found that I love to write books — my first one is almost finished.

Books recently read: "The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership" by John C. Maxwell and Zig Ziglar; "Pauahi: The Kamehameha Legacy" by George H. Kanahele; "Hawaiian Antiquities" by David Malo' "The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to Greatness" by Stephen R. Covey; and "The Emotional Intelligence Quick Book: Everything You Need to Know" by Dr. Travis Bradberry and Dr. Jean Greaves.

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Q. Why did you feel the need to create your own leadership and empowerment company?

A. Everyone's writing about emotional intelligence. But after sitting through countless hours of leadership development, I felt there was a need to add in the cultural aspect as to why Hawai'i is so special. There's a certain way we do business here, which is different. My whole goal of Pacific Leadership is to be able to be a bridge maker. How do I bridge, uplift and inspire local people to reach and attain higher goals? And how do you offer a little bit of tolerance training for those people who come here and see Hawai'i as still native? How do you give it a face and a voice? That's what we're all about.

Q. How do you connect Hawaiian cultural values with modern Western ideologies in your seminars?

A. I think the Hawaiian cultural side of it will show the real core elements of being a good human being. It focuses on how you treat people, your obligation to others and to yourself, your work ethics, the ability to sustain your family, the ability to sustain your organization or your village. And I see the Western part of it — it's the drive, the economic achievement, the corporate ladder, which is not necessarily directly opposed to the Hawaiian side, but it makes us aware that it's OK to step out of our comfort zone, to want a little more, to work a little harder. It's OK if you want to go for it. You can balance yourself by being humbly assertive. If you strive to achieve, promote or elevate your position, do it with benevolence, honor and integrity.

Q. How do you blend your Western and Hawaiian influences in your seminars?

A. With every cultural aspect that I teach, I find a Western parallel for it. Most of the Western concepts are stemming from the same kumus — Tony Robbins, Ken Blanchard, Stephen Covey — and what I've tried to do is not necessarily borrow or copy, but more validate the Hawaiian aspect of it. For example, take the whole idea of kuleana. Kuleana in Hawaiian is responsibility. Within the ancient culture, kuleana is actually very important with regards to being a parent, an ali'i, a commoner, and that same theory of taking responsibility for oneself is pretty much pervasive in all these leadership books by these other guys.

Q. What is the pa'akai theory?

A. At the age of 16, my parents decided that for a whole summer, I was going to spend it with my grandparents doing backbreaking work. It was that summer when my grandfather told me: "Everything you do should be like making salt." It was about hard work. It's grueling — you're on your hands and knees, making these saltbeds. I taught the pa'akai (salt) theory as a metaphor: hard work, determination, the process, the gift and the abundant return. It was by chance that the director of the scholars program at Kamehameha Schools gave me my first opportunity to present my pa'akai theory of leadership for high schoolers who were going through the scholars program. That's where I actually fine-tuned the program. I had been commissioned to do a class on the island of Kaua'i, and I decided to bring the kids to the salt patch. And it just hits me like an epiphany, and I am remembering the beginning. It all clicked in me and made sense.

Q. Are your leadership and empowerment seminars just for leaders?

A. It's for every human being who wants to become a better human being — not just the leaders. I've had audiences from the front line all the way to presidents and business owners. When you come to our sessions, you take that label, that title that you've got, and you drop it in that imaginary box outside that door. You come in on the same playing field as everybody else and it works. People get the same message, and it's kind of inspiring to see that. You can have the mailroom guy from Company A sitting next to the president of Company B, and they're just great friends sharing experiences.

Q. How do local people react to the issues addressed in your sessions?

A. A lot of times we find that the aloha spirit sometimes takes over logic. We're more tolerant to certain behaviors. We don't want to ruffle the feathers of anybody, but sometimes it's OK to rise to the occasion. Whether you're in a leadership role, a parental role, it doesn't matter. I pose this question: "Tell your neighbor what it is that you love about yourself." And they sort of just look at me like, "Huh?" It is hard for local people, and that's why I get them out of their box, their comfort zone. And they start to go: "Yeah, I cook a perfect pot of rice every night," and I say "Oh, that's great, because not all of us can do that." They tend to enjoy that; it's kind of refreshing.

Reach Dan Nakaso at dnakaso@honoluluadvertiser.com.


• Correction: Kaua'i Community College was one of three schools Celine Pi'ilani Nelsen attended. A different community college was named in an earlier verison of this story.